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Alvaro Martín Gómez A.



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PostSubject: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:05 am

Hi everybody.

Well, I posted this at TalkBass, but being this THE T-40 forum, I wanted to share this with all of you T-40 fans.

No further comments. Just click here and read the notes thoroughly. I think this is a very interesting comparison, so I'd love to hear whatever you have to say about these basses' tone just judging from the recording.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:20 pm

Alvaro,

Great playing, as usual. The T-40 sounds just as good as the Rick to my ears. Oh yeah, the Rick costs around $12-1500 more than a T-40!!

It's also my opinion that a good bass player can make a crappy bass sound good too. Good chops help.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:57 pm

Alvaro,

+1, excellent playing!

Not my kind of music, but an excellent choice for a comparision. If it were a RUSH song, I'd have been jaded INSTANTLY.

Each has their own strength's and weaknesses. Were the settings the same for both? Similar strings too?

Tough choice, but I HAVE to go with the RIC, but a blind comparision would have proved it more difficult for me. I've never considered slapping on a RIC!

ALTHOUGH, as mentioned, the fact that the T40 is about $1500.00 cheaper gives it a HUGE advantage in its favor!
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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:26 pm

Thank you for your comments, guys! Smile

ajish4 wrote:
Were the settings the same for both? Similar strings too?

Here's how I made the recordings (Pasted from the video notes):


Hi everybody.

This time I've wanted to offer you fellow bass players the chance of comparing two instruments that many feel very similar in character, despite the big price difference: The Rickenbacker 4003 and the Peavey T-40.

For this task I've chosen the great rock tune "Cupid's Dead", originally recorded by the band Extreme. I had to remove the second verse for the video not to exceed the 10-minute limit. I don't want to give an opinion about which bass sounds "better" to my ears (Just to avoid preconceptions), so I'll only talk about how these instruments were recorded:

As usual, the sound was captured from the instruments' direct signal to my PC's sound card passing through my Kustom KBA30 practice amp. Since the amp's EQ affects the output signal, I took advantage of that to (Try to) compensate for a slight difference in the way I set my basses' tone and volume controls.

The T-40 has both pickups at full volume, neck pickup's tone at 10 (for single coil mode) and bridge pickup's tone at 7 (for humbucker mode). The Ric has both neck and bridge pickups' tone fully open, as well as the bridge pickup's volume. The neck pickup's volume is slightly rolled off. The standard/vintage tone selector is set to standard.

So, rolling off the neck pickup volume a bit puts the Ric at disadvantage in the bass frequencies area, but I made that difference because:

- The T-40 sounds too "honky" to my ears when the neck pickup's volume isn't at maximum.
- The Ric doesn't cut that well in the mix (To me) with both pickups full volume. Besides, I don't feel it that honky with unbalanced volumes.

So, to compensate for that, I set my amp's "Low" knob to around 7 for recording the Ric. Everything else was around 5 (Flat), including the "Low" knob for recording the T-40.

Both basses have old roundwound steel strings: Rotosound Swing 66 for the Ric and LaBella Hard Rockin' Steels for the Peavey (I think. The T-40 arrived with those strings with black silk wraps and I haven't changed them. Look like HRS to me).

And that's it. Hope you find this shootout interesting. My apologies for the strange effect in the video throughout my performance with the 4003. It seems that the camera had a problem, but of course I didn't notice it while recording. As always, my playing isn't flawless, but anyway hope it helps all of you interested in playing this super cool tune. I really like the bass tone on the original recording, but I hardly use a pick. Thanks for watching! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:40 pm

I think the T-40 sounded better than the RIC. I got three T-40's. All black. Two rosewoods and one maple. Last night I had a show and used two of them. A guy came up to me saying that he had a blacke/rosewood T-40 but it was too big for him. He wants to use my Ibanez (a fiver yet waaaay smaller than the T-40).

What do you think?? Should i trade him my Ibanez, the bass i learned how to play and had for over ten years for his T-40, one that is similar to the ones i already got? If he had a sierra sunburst and rosewood then...or a white with rosewood neck then...

...but another black one?????? should i do it??????

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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:56 pm

IMHO,

NEVER get rid of your FIRST bass. I did and STILL REGRET it, MOST players I've spoken to, feel the same. It's your first love. LoL!

Just my humble opinion. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:04 am

I agree. I've regretted letting my first go ever since the day I let it go.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootout: Peavey T-40 vs. Rickenbacker 4003   Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:33 pm

good point. i'll keep it around. Although technically- its not my first bass. I had a hunk of junk peavey (or was it a Kramer, now thinking about it, it was a piece of shit Kramer- crap red, never stayed in tune and sounded like a dull fart). I only had it for like one month before i decided a better bass is need....enter the IBANEZ...from Hell.

All that aside, the Ibanez ain't even mine anymore. I explained the Ibanez/T-40 trade to my Girlfriend and she graciously reminded me that the Ibanez is now hers. I told her to keep it at her house since i have four other basses at my house. So therew you go. its hers, not mine.

alls wells that ends well.

where are my sunburst/rosewood and white/rosewood basses??

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